Churches in chains: ELCA, PCUSA, United Church of Christ

There are churches in the world that are sound, preaching the Apostolic Traditions— at least those found in the Bible— and rejecting demands to ‘change with the times.’ There are churches that are gladly liberal or super-liberal where the congregation joyfully rejects old-fashioned Bible teachings to support rejection of the Trinity, abortion, homosexual behaviors, and same-sex ‘marriage.’ But there are other churches— the churches in chains.

I grew up in the PCUSA Presbyterian church, which was already beginning to go liberal. But we never noticed it in our Sunday School. Our church had a religious education hour before the worship service with Bible classes for all ages. We studied Bible stories and memorized Bible verses every week. My younger brother Mike and I had to bring Bibles to Sunday School class. Our family wasn’t the sort to buy Bibles for young kids, so one of us brought Dad’s old Bible and one brought Mom’s. We were taught how to find Bible verses if we were given verse references.

But by the time I was in college I knew the PCUSA supported abortion, and I didn’t. We had a local PCUSA congregation and the pastor once told us that he, personally, objected to abortion. That was quite daring then. Most conservatives in the PCUSA didn’t talk about conservative things.

Over the years it got worse. But when my dad retired he and mom joined a local PCUSA church, that local congregation seemed like a normal Christian church most of the time. Though at my father’s funeral, the lady pastor pretty much apologized for the Bible readings that were a part of the funeral service. She said they were part of the history of people’s relationships with God— not the inspired Word of God. I was very offended— and I was a Neopagan at the time!

When the Supreme Court exceeded its authority to legalize same-sex ‘marriage,’ a big part of the congregation wanted to leave the PCUSA. But they can’t. The denomination headquarters had contributed money toward the local church building. And so if they left the PCUSA, they would lose their church building. The congregation, mostly elderly and not accustomed to evangelize since the denomination discourages it, could not replace that building— nor do they want to— they are accustomed to the building they have— they and their ancestors supported it.

There are other bad denominations like ELCA and United Church of Christ which have still-Christian, Bible-based congregations which can’t leave because the denomination will take their building. I personally think that God is calling them out of the faithless denominations no matter the cost. But I understand that after going decades without much in the way of Biblical preaching, most won’t dare.

I know some people will scream ‘hater’ at me for not supporting same-sex fake marriage. But guess what: I am gay (and chaste.) So bullying me in the comments section isn’t politically correct.

Pastor Tom Brock, a faithful Lutheran pastor who left the liberal ELCA Lutheran denomination, is also a gay person who lives a life faithful to the Bible. He has a TV show on the Christian channel CTN, which is also available online. He acts as a watchdog, exposing the unBiblical goings-on in the liberal churches, such as the ELCA congregation in California which worships the Goddess— which is OK in the ELCA. Here is an episode of his show that gives 11 reasons to leave a liberal denomination. (Since I’m now a Catholic, I don’t agree with EVERYTHING Pastor Tom says. But I’m inspired by his witness in our troubled times.)


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A Lutheran Pastor Struggles With Same-Sex Attraction/Homosexuality

Pastor Tom Brock

Pastor Tom Brock

Yesterday (Monday), I was watching television and switched to an Evangelical Christian channel, CTN. I watched an interesting program and when it was over, a second, much less well-produced program came on. Just a guy in a clergy shirt standing in front of a curtain talking. Nothing to get excited about. Only after a few seconds of listening, I was hooked. And then the pastor gave his personal testimony (briefly)— he had struggled with homosexual temptation most of his life, but had by the grace of God remained chaste. Yay, Pastor Tom!

And Pastor Tom has not only remained chaste but has been standing up for Biblical teachings on homosexual behavior. That is such a hard choice. In my own case, after I accepted Christianity and was taking instruction in the Catholic faith, I was willing to make a commitment for lifelong chastity for myself, I wasn’t at first willing to stand up for the idea that other Gay people, if they were Christian, should remain chaste and give up any homosexual acts. I did accept the Biblical and Catholic teachings on this matter in time. But when I first started speaking out, I was amazed at the level of hate I got for daring to say I actually had same-sex attraction/was Gay, but was standing up for Biblical teachings and living a life of chastity.

Pastor Tom Brock’s testimony is available at The Pastor’s Study web site— the relevant page is here: I hope all readers of this blog, not matter your views about homosexuality or about Christianity, will take the time to read his testimony in full. Because too many people are convinced that all people with same-sex attraction/Gay orientation think the same, have the same sort of beliefs about the Bible and Christianity, vote the same. We need to realize even minority groups are made up of actual people who have variety of opinions, whether the larger culture wants to admit that or not.

You know, all too often I’ve looked at the world of Evangelical Christian television and looked mainly at the bad things— those preachers who seem to be out to gain money from the flock. Like the preacher I listened to yesterday, who claimed he had supernatural knowledge that there was a businessman out there in the audience who had to give $5000 to the preacher’s ‘ministry’, and that would prove to God that the business had the seed of faith and God would prosper that man’s business.

But there are good ministries out there. I liked this one so much that I told my mother about it. Especially since Pastor Tom mentioned by name her own Presbyterian denomination (PCUSA) which has recently come out in favor of same-sex faux ‘marriage’, and said it was time for Christians to come out of that Presbyterian denomination. (Mom was more impressed by Pastor Tom saying that than by me saying the same thing several times— but then, Mom knows me. 😉 )  LINK: PCUSA Redefines Marriage

If you want to watch the episode of The Pastor’s Study that so blessed me yesterday, it’s available on YouTube along with many other messages. The topic is ‘You Must Forgive’.  Here it is: